Told You We Weren’t Done…
The Sgrena story is heating up the blogosphere as much as the Constitutional Option is; let me just say that it isn’t easy pulling double duty on two very hot issues. But we do have an update for this story, but it doesn’t concern the report. It concerns the speculation running around the ‘Net today regarding the CBS satellite story from last Thursday. It was initially believed to be true, when reported, that we did indeed have evidence showing that Sgrena was lying. Then, some bloggers questioned the authenticity of that story when the report from the US military was issued on Saturday in reference to the Sgrena shooting.
There is no mention of any sort of satellite surveillance in the report—in either redacted or non-redacted versions. Now, many would say that this is deliberately omitted to protect that little piece of data from the terrorists.
Why? Those animals know we have our birds overhead. And you can’t tell me that the Italians don’t know we have satellites. However, a well-known blogger has a solution to this, and the solution was dropped in his lap via a soldier. (Hat-Tip: The Jawa Report)
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/
Here's something important, I think. I received an e-mail from USAF Intelligence Officer who has been on the job for 19 years, so I take it he knows what he's talking about. I'll leave his name out of the post since the e-mail he sent is from a .mil address and says 'Classified' in the signature. The crux of it is that I am right to be skeptical about the satellite claim, however, it may be that CBS simply inferred that the images were from a satellite and mis-reported that info.
He says, "The most obvious source of data on how fast a vehicle was moving would be a JSTARS using their Moving Target Indicator (MTI) radar. I don't know for a fact if they're still in the area but they were at the start of the war and I'd be willing to bet that they're still there. Piece of cake for them to record an entire mission and later analyze this type of thing."
He also sends a link to a site which explains how JSTARS and Global Hawk actually do give real time data. Pretty cool stuff. So, maybe we do have the goods on Sgrena and the data is their to prove it.
TRADERROB has also taken some time to respond to my earlier skepticism of the satellite imagery. I'm still not convinced, but he does mention that perhaps it was an unmanned drone that took the photos and not a satellite which seems much more plausible.
OK. So maybe CBS just screwed up, and put out the wrong information. In the rush to beat other news organizations to the punch, they skipped a level of editorial review. The logical solution to this problem would be for CBS to make a correction—clearly and publicly on their nightly news program—and end the fuss over this. Otherwise, the outcry they may face may bring them back to the days of Rathergate when Dan Rather was nailed for using phony documents. I’m almost positive that CBS would have learned from that mistake, and not make one like it so soon after Rather’s departure. But they should address it.
The JSTARS and Global Hawks do make more sense, and if that was what we used, then yes, we do have the goods on the commie reporter. Real-time technology is something we have had for awhile, and we have utilized those tools in both stages of this GWOT. So, if CBS would like to step forward, give the traditional "We’re sorry’s", and correct their mistake, it would be greatly appreciated. There’s enough hell revolving around this report, and the screw-ups made in it’s posting that some things need to be cleared up. That’s what WE are trying to do with our updates; just tightening the focus and clearing up the fuzzy parts.
And there are plenty of fuzzy parts surrounding Sgrena except one. She is a serial liar, and she despises this country. Her propaganda over this incident has been designed to inflict a serious PR blow to this nation, and her troops serving abroad. And with the Italian report due out sometime today (as yet a check of the ‘Net shows the report isn’t out yet, and it was supposed to have been released at 1600 GMT today). I’m positive they will carp much of the accusations that Sgrena has made. It’s already been spun by the Italians in this press release from this morning. (Hat-Tip: Captain’s Quarters)
http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/
Correspondents say the Italian report will reply point by point to the Pentagon inquiry, which recommended that no disciplinary action be taken against the soldiers involved in Calipari's death. ...
Italy says at least three troops opened fire on the car taking freed hostage Giuliana Sgrena to Baghdad airport with Calipari and a second Italian intelligent agent.
Italian newspapers say an Italian reconstruction of events show the US authorities were informed of the operation to release Sgrena several hours before the shooting, though the US denies that.
Reports say the experts who drafted the Italian report will also claim that a three-second warning given by the US troops was not enough time for the car to stop.
Our forces weren’t notified about anything regarding the release of Sgrena. Two Italian newspapers corroborate that fact. Gen. Mario Marioli was told to keep his yap shut to us. He had some information, and had informed us that Calipari and Carpani (his driver) were in Iraq, but didn’t give us the details as to why they were there. So, the story of we were informed doesn’t even wash because Marioli denies that. Or are they going to call him a liar, too?
And as for the three second warning, provided the surveillance we have of the incident is correct, three seconds was all the time our troops had. Carpani was set to run that checkpoint. Maybe had the car been traveling at the speed that Sgrena claims it was, there would have been plenty of time to stop. But if you’re going 60 mph, and it’s around 100 yards to the checkpoint, it’s a pretty good guarantee you won’t have the chance to stop. But why run the checkpoint at all? Just stop, give your ID, and be on your merry way. Had the troops called in Calipari, he probably would have been waved through. There is no sensible, logical reason for them to blow that checkpoint.
It’s time for Italy to face facts, and it’s embodied in a line from the movie "Top Gun": "The Defense Department regrets to inform you that your sons are dead because they were stupid."
That’s the death of Calipari in a nutshell, folks. Had he just been open to the coalition commanders, he might be sipping wine in Bologna today. Hell, he didn’t even have to tell us why he was there; he could have lied. But had they known he was there, going through the checkpoints would have been a lot easier. Which brings up another point.
My other half was quick to grab this when it first came out. According to Sgrena, they had been stopped at other checkpoints. So why run this last one? Nothing this woman says is true. It’s been lie, after lie, after lie from the start, and all done to destroy the honor and integrity of the troops and this nation—both of which she despises with the white-hot passion of a thousand suns.
Publius II
The Sgrena story is heating up the blogosphere as much as the Constitutional Option is; let me just say that it isn’t easy pulling double duty on two very hot issues. But we do have an update for this story, but it doesn’t concern the report. It concerns the speculation running around the ‘Net today regarding the CBS satellite story from last Thursday. It was initially believed to be true, when reported, that we did indeed have evidence showing that Sgrena was lying. Then, some bloggers questioned the authenticity of that story when the report from the US military was issued on Saturday in reference to the Sgrena shooting.
There is no mention of any sort of satellite surveillance in the report—in either redacted or non-redacted versions. Now, many would say that this is deliberately omitted to protect that little piece of data from the terrorists.
Why? Those animals know we have our birds overhead. And you can’t tell me that the Italians don’t know we have satellites. However, a well-known blogger has a solution to this, and the solution was dropped in his lap via a soldier. (Hat-Tip: The Jawa Report)
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/
Here's something important, I think. I received an e-mail from USAF Intelligence Officer who has been on the job for 19 years, so I take it he knows what he's talking about. I'll leave his name out of the post since the e-mail he sent is from a .mil address and says 'Classified' in the signature. The crux of it is that I am right to be skeptical about the satellite claim, however, it may be that CBS simply inferred that the images were from a satellite and mis-reported that info.
He says, "The most obvious source of data on how fast a vehicle was moving would be a JSTARS using their Moving Target Indicator (MTI) radar. I don't know for a fact if they're still in the area but they were at the start of the war and I'd be willing to bet that they're still there. Piece of cake for them to record an entire mission and later analyze this type of thing."
He also sends a link to a site which explains how JSTARS and Global Hawk actually do give real time data. Pretty cool stuff. So, maybe we do have the goods on Sgrena and the data is their to prove it.
TRADERROB has also taken some time to respond to my earlier skepticism of the satellite imagery. I'm still not convinced, but he does mention that perhaps it was an unmanned drone that took the photos and not a satellite which seems much more plausible.
OK. So maybe CBS just screwed up, and put out the wrong information. In the rush to beat other news organizations to the punch, they skipped a level of editorial review. The logical solution to this problem would be for CBS to make a correction—clearly and publicly on their nightly news program—and end the fuss over this. Otherwise, the outcry they may face may bring them back to the days of Rathergate when Dan Rather was nailed for using phony documents. I’m almost positive that CBS would have learned from that mistake, and not make one like it so soon after Rather’s departure. But they should address it.
The JSTARS and Global Hawks do make more sense, and if that was what we used, then yes, we do have the goods on the commie reporter. Real-time technology is something we have had for awhile, and we have utilized those tools in both stages of this GWOT. So, if CBS would like to step forward, give the traditional "We’re sorry’s", and correct their mistake, it would be greatly appreciated. There’s enough hell revolving around this report, and the screw-ups made in it’s posting that some things need to be cleared up. That’s what WE are trying to do with our updates; just tightening the focus and clearing up the fuzzy parts.
And there are plenty of fuzzy parts surrounding Sgrena except one. She is a serial liar, and she despises this country. Her propaganda over this incident has been designed to inflict a serious PR blow to this nation, and her troops serving abroad. And with the Italian report due out sometime today (as yet a check of the ‘Net shows the report isn’t out yet, and it was supposed to have been released at 1600 GMT today). I’m positive they will carp much of the accusations that Sgrena has made. It’s already been spun by the Italians in this press release from this morning. (Hat-Tip: Captain’s Quarters)
http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/
Correspondents say the Italian report will reply point by point to the Pentagon inquiry, which recommended that no disciplinary action be taken against the soldiers involved in Calipari's death. ...
Italy says at least three troops opened fire on the car taking freed hostage Giuliana Sgrena to Baghdad airport with Calipari and a second Italian intelligent agent.
Italian newspapers say an Italian reconstruction of events show the US authorities were informed of the operation to release Sgrena several hours before the shooting, though the US denies that.
Reports say the experts who drafted the Italian report will also claim that a three-second warning given by the US troops was not enough time for the car to stop.
Our forces weren’t notified about anything regarding the release of Sgrena. Two Italian newspapers corroborate that fact. Gen. Mario Marioli was told to keep his yap shut to us. He had some information, and had informed us that Calipari and Carpani (his driver) were in Iraq, but didn’t give us the details as to why they were there. So, the story of we were informed doesn’t even wash because Marioli denies that. Or are they going to call him a liar, too?
And as for the three second warning, provided the surveillance we have of the incident is correct, three seconds was all the time our troops had. Carpani was set to run that checkpoint. Maybe had the car been traveling at the speed that Sgrena claims it was, there would have been plenty of time to stop. But if you’re going 60 mph, and it’s around 100 yards to the checkpoint, it’s a pretty good guarantee you won’t have the chance to stop. But why run the checkpoint at all? Just stop, give your ID, and be on your merry way. Had the troops called in Calipari, he probably would have been waved through. There is no sensible, logical reason for them to blow that checkpoint.
It’s time for Italy to face facts, and it’s embodied in a line from the movie "Top Gun": "The Defense Department regrets to inform you that your sons are dead because they were stupid."
That’s the death of Calipari in a nutshell, folks. Had he just been open to the coalition commanders, he might be sipping wine in Bologna today. Hell, he didn’t even have to tell us why he was there; he could have lied. But had they known he was there, going through the checkpoints would have been a lot easier. Which brings up another point.
My other half was quick to grab this when it first came out. According to Sgrena, they had been stopped at other checkpoints. So why run this last one? Nothing this woman says is true. It’s been lie, after lie, after lie from the start, and all done to destroy the honor and integrity of the troops and this nation—both of which she despises with the white-hot passion of a thousand suns.
Publius II
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