Canadian Terror Raid: Updating The Information
Thomas was one of many that jumped on this story. (Saturdays are busy for us, so we were late to the posting on this.) He took the the tip from Captain's Quarters. I read up on it initially from Michelle. The updates are all courtesy of Charles Johnson at Little Green Footballs. It seems that Korans are being demanded by them and their family:
Family members of some of the men facing terrorism-related charges - wives, mothers and fathers - met in the parking lot of a Brampton courthouse early this morning.
Standing behind a metal barricade police put up to seal off the court entrance, women dressed in burkas rubbed each other’s backs to console one another.
“I think there are a lot of people here today who should not be involved in this,” said Anser Farooq, a lawyer representing several of the accused. “I think they (the police) cast their net far too wide. We’ve been talking several lawsuits as a result of this action,” he said. ...
... Pointing at snipers on the roof, Farooq, who would not name his clients, said: “This is ridiculous. They’ve got soldiers here with guns. This is going to completely change the atmosphere.”
Families waiting at the courthouse finally got a chance to see the detainees when they were brought before a justice of the peace around 3:30 p.m.
Handcuffed to one another and wearing leg irons the detainees stood silently while the justice of the peace remanded them into custody until June 6 when they are scheduled to reappear.
Through their lawyers, some complained about the conditions where they were held Friday night and asked that they be given copies of the Qur’an while in custody. ...
Given a Koran? Complaining of conditions? Would the religion of peace prefer the Canadians shot them on sight? They ought to count themselves lucky that they have been extended this sort of courtesy already. They are, after all, not in the United States where we provide Korans, prayer rugs, and rice pilaf to the same people try to kill us.
But it seems that this group of people were connected to a a number of worldwide links:
A Canadian counter-terrorism investigation that led to the arrests of 17 people accused of plotting bombings in Ontario is linked to probes in a half-dozen countries, the National Post has learned.
Well before police tactical teams began their sweeps around Toronto on Friday, at least 18 related arrests had already taken place in Canada, the United States, Britain, Bosnia, Denmark, Sweden, and Bangladesh.
The six-month RCMP investigation, called Project OSage, is one of several overlapping probes that include an FBI case called Operation Northern Exposure and a British probe known as Operation Mazhar.
At a news conference Saturday, the RCMP announced terrorism-related charges had been laid against a dozen Toronto-area men and five teens under the age of 18.The group “took steps to acquire components necessary to create explosive devices” including three tonnes of ammonium nitrate fertilizer, commonly used in terrorist bombs, police said.
By comparison, the truck bomb used to blow up the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City in 1995, killing 168 people, contained a single tonne of ammonium nitrate.
“It was their intent to use it for a terrorist attack,” RCMP assistant commissioner Mike McDonell said.
“This group posed a real threat. It had the capacity and intent to carry out these attacks.”
Police declined to identify the intended targets because the investigation is ongoing but said they were all in southern Ontario and did not include the Toronto transit system, as some media outlets had reported.
Thomas posted the intended targets, and a hat-tip to The Toronto Star for sharing those targets:
The group arrested yesterday allegedly had a list of targets, sources have told the Star, and the Toronto headquarters of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service was one of them.
So were the Parliament Buildings in Ottawa and a smattering of other high-profile, heavily populated areas. But since most of the suspects lived in the GTA, it was the potential threat to the spy service's office and the chaos an attack would create in the heart of Toronto that concerned CSIS most.
I have a distinct feeling that this was going to be Canada's 9/11. They were going after the organizations that were created to deal with threats like their own, and the seat of the government. On 9/11, our enemies took down not only two monuments within our country, but a place where worldwide business was conducted. They were attempting to destabilize our economy; hoping terror would drive people to make a run on the banks and the markets. (Speculation, of course, but it is a solid assessment of the strike on the Trade Towers.) Likewise, they targeted the number one installation to handle military operations in the Pentagon. Granted, the five-sided structure is harldy a military target, but that was designed (again, speculation) to decapitate our military. Flight 93, we guesstimate, was heading for DC to either take out the white House (believing the president to be there), or the Capitol (taking out Congress, and further ushering in panic and chaos). Flight 93, thank God, never reached its destination.
By targeting Parliament, the bombers planned on decapitating the government, much as a successful strike on the Capitol would have done that to our government. The planned attack on the CSIS would have been the equivalent of striking Langley or the NSA headquarters. In our case, they chose the Pentagon. (I am guessing that the idea of trying to sneak into the NSA's headquarters is pure folly, and far too hard for them right now.)
The point being is that this group did have ties elsewhere in the world. They were homegrown; sucked into the bloody ideology that is ravaging the world right now. This is not an ideology to be reasoned with, and vigilance should be the norm for the day to avoid this sort of an attack. The Canadians were on guard, and prevented this from happening. And they did so by utilizing similar measures to our own in hunting these animals down.
As far as I am concerned, their Korans will henaded to them when they meet Allah. The good guys won today, and no tin-horn, "slick-willy" lawyer is going to get them out of jail. They stay. They stay in the conditions they are in, and without their Korans. They were attempting to commit mass murder. We do not even let our murderers run loose like that. (Well, maybe OJ.) As far as I am concerned those twelve people should face judgment under Canada's military courts.
The Bunny ;)
Thomas was one of many that jumped on this story. (Saturdays are busy for us, so we were late to the posting on this.) He took the the tip from Captain's Quarters. I read up on it initially from Michelle. The updates are all courtesy of Charles Johnson at Little Green Footballs. It seems that Korans are being demanded by them and their family:
Family members of some of the men facing terrorism-related charges - wives, mothers and fathers - met in the parking lot of a Brampton courthouse early this morning.
Standing behind a metal barricade police put up to seal off the court entrance, women dressed in burkas rubbed each other’s backs to console one another.
“I think there are a lot of people here today who should not be involved in this,” said Anser Farooq, a lawyer representing several of the accused. “I think they (the police) cast their net far too wide. We’ve been talking several lawsuits as a result of this action,” he said. ...
... Pointing at snipers on the roof, Farooq, who would not name his clients, said: “This is ridiculous. They’ve got soldiers here with guns. This is going to completely change the atmosphere.”
Families waiting at the courthouse finally got a chance to see the detainees when they were brought before a justice of the peace around 3:30 p.m.
Handcuffed to one another and wearing leg irons the detainees stood silently while the justice of the peace remanded them into custody until June 6 when they are scheduled to reappear.
Through their lawyers, some complained about the conditions where they were held Friday night and asked that they be given copies of the Qur’an while in custody. ...
Given a Koran? Complaining of conditions? Would the religion of peace prefer the Canadians shot them on sight? They ought to count themselves lucky that they have been extended this sort of courtesy already. They are, after all, not in the United States where we provide Korans, prayer rugs, and rice pilaf to the same people try to kill us.
But it seems that this group of people were connected to a a number of worldwide links:
A Canadian counter-terrorism investigation that led to the arrests of 17 people accused of plotting bombings in Ontario is linked to probes in a half-dozen countries, the National Post has learned.
Well before police tactical teams began their sweeps around Toronto on Friday, at least 18 related arrests had already taken place in Canada, the United States, Britain, Bosnia, Denmark, Sweden, and Bangladesh.
The six-month RCMP investigation, called Project OSage, is one of several overlapping probes that include an FBI case called Operation Northern Exposure and a British probe known as Operation Mazhar.
At a news conference Saturday, the RCMP announced terrorism-related charges had been laid against a dozen Toronto-area men and five teens under the age of 18.The group “took steps to acquire components necessary to create explosive devices” including three tonnes of ammonium nitrate fertilizer, commonly used in terrorist bombs, police said.
By comparison, the truck bomb used to blow up the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City in 1995, killing 168 people, contained a single tonne of ammonium nitrate.
“It was their intent to use it for a terrorist attack,” RCMP assistant commissioner Mike McDonell said.
“This group posed a real threat. It had the capacity and intent to carry out these attacks.”
Police declined to identify the intended targets because the investigation is ongoing but said they were all in southern Ontario and did not include the Toronto transit system, as some media outlets had reported.
Thomas posted the intended targets, and a hat-tip to The Toronto Star for sharing those targets:
The group arrested yesterday allegedly had a list of targets, sources have told the Star, and the Toronto headquarters of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service was one of them.
So were the Parliament Buildings in Ottawa and a smattering of other high-profile, heavily populated areas. But since most of the suspects lived in the GTA, it was the potential threat to the spy service's office and the chaos an attack would create in the heart of Toronto that concerned CSIS most.
I have a distinct feeling that this was going to be Canada's 9/11. They were going after the organizations that were created to deal with threats like their own, and the seat of the government. On 9/11, our enemies took down not only two monuments within our country, but a place where worldwide business was conducted. They were attempting to destabilize our economy; hoping terror would drive people to make a run on the banks and the markets. (Speculation, of course, but it is a solid assessment of the strike on the Trade Towers.) Likewise, they targeted the number one installation to handle military operations in the Pentagon. Granted, the five-sided structure is harldy a military target, but that was designed (again, speculation) to decapitate our military. Flight 93, we guesstimate, was heading for DC to either take out the white House (believing the president to be there), or the Capitol (taking out Congress, and further ushering in panic and chaos). Flight 93, thank God, never reached its destination.
By targeting Parliament, the bombers planned on decapitating the government, much as a successful strike on the Capitol would have done that to our government. The planned attack on the CSIS would have been the equivalent of striking Langley or the NSA headquarters. In our case, they chose the Pentagon. (I am guessing that the idea of trying to sneak into the NSA's headquarters is pure folly, and far too hard for them right now.)
The point being is that this group did have ties elsewhere in the world. They were homegrown; sucked into the bloody ideology that is ravaging the world right now. This is not an ideology to be reasoned with, and vigilance should be the norm for the day to avoid this sort of an attack. The Canadians were on guard, and prevented this from happening. And they did so by utilizing similar measures to our own in hunting these animals down.
As far as I am concerned, their Korans will henaded to them when they meet Allah. The good guys won today, and no tin-horn, "slick-willy" lawyer is going to get them out of jail. They stay. They stay in the conditions they are in, and without their Korans. They were attempting to commit mass murder. We do not even let our murderers run loose like that. (Well, maybe OJ.) As far as I am concerned those twelve people should face judgment under Canada's military courts.
The Bunny ;)
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