Deadliest Shooting In US History
Virginia Tech became the scene this morning for the deadliest shooting in American history. A gunman, Asian in appearance, killed 30 people before being killed himself.. This story is all over the 'sphere with Allah @ Hot Air, Jonah @ NRO's Corner, Captain Ed, Paul @ PowerLine, Professor Glenn Reynolds, and Michelle Malkin all covering the event. I would also like to note that Both Michelle and Allah are noticing the media's sudden call for gun control at certain pressers today, including the one with Dana Perrino, the new WH spokeswoman.
It always takes a tragedy like this one (Allah notes that according to this killing spree is tied for third amongst the worst in history) that has the moonbats in the press calling for stricter gun controls. I know of no college campus where you may legally carry a firearm, and that includes ASU. (I do anyway because I have a CCW license, and I would rather not be caught without a way to defend myself. Thomas cannot be by my side 24/7.) And while the media may be asking about tightening gun controls, I call for a relaxation of them. Think about it, and I know it has been said before, but if one or two students happened to be armed, this spree would have ended quickly.
The Left never contemplates such an idea. It is foreign to them. To them, that is the job of the police (the same police they berate day in and day out) and not us. We are supposed to sit on the sidelines like good little doobies, and wait for help. Yes, except that help is a ways off, and meanwhile we have a nut case shooting randomly at people. Take this, for example, that Allah found on Virginia Tech's listserv from a student:
Zach just got back and he told us his story. he can tell u the details better but he deserves to be recognized immediately. He was in norris hall and heard the gunshots comign from down the hall. while others hid in the class room zach got up and got a few others to help him baracade the door with desks. He could hear the gunman coming down the hall opening doors n firing into class rooms. Zach then saw his door handle turn and the gun man tried to get in but zach slammed the door back shut, others then got up to help, trying to hold the door shut with desks. zach then said he heard the the gunman reload a new magazine and fired two shots directly through the door, luckily didnt hit anybody. the gunman then gave up an continued down the hall.
And now there is this from ABC News. Someone has some 'splaining to do:
I was in class…two buildings over. Someone got a text message saying something was going on. After that we were told to stay in the building, away from the windows.
Right at the end of class, 9:50 or 9:55.
It really wasn't organized. Almost everyone else just left, and while the kids were running out, people said, "Come back, come back."
"The only reason we knew was because someone got a text message…No one was there saying, "This is what's going on."
Communication from college? I checked my e-mail about 8:30…I went to my class as I usually would. By 8:30 no one was notified that something had happened at 7. We went onto a dangerous campus not knowing…
Why did the school not notify students of a shooting that started at 7 a.m. prior to their departure for classes? The school cannot say that this cannot be done. That is a lie. We have the Amber Alert system for the nation, and it is broadcast over TV and radio, on electronic freeway signs, and even the lottery machines print out Amber Alert notices and updates. If we can do it for missing children, then you can bet we can find a way to protect college campuses better with this sort of notification. I must share the anger of the students who went out on a campus where a gunman was loose, and they were unaware.
And according to MSNBC, this was not as random as many think:
The name of the gunman was not released. It was not immediately clear whether he shot himself or was killed by police.
The man did not appear to be shooting at random, NBC News’ Pete Williams reported, quoting federal law enforcement officials. He appeared to have specifically targeted the two locations, a co-ed dormitory and a classroom housing engineering and business classes.
Law enforcement officials said the gunman carried two weapons, a 9-mm pistol and a 22-caliber handgun, Williams reported. They said gunman chained the doors of the classroom building so his potential victims could not escape and police could not enter.
He targeted two specific areas, and he was stayingh until he found who he was looking for. News reports state that he went there to find his girlfriend, but without that coming from him, no one knows for sure, and he does not appear to be doing any talking soon since he is among the dead. This also was not a spur of the moment desire for him. He came armed well, and chains for the doors. I would be willing to wager that he was possibly a former student, or had been on the campus enough to know it's layout, and where he wanted to go.
Marcie
UPDATE: The death toll is up to 33 now, and according to the Virginia Tech police chief the gunman took his own life:
During a 4:45 p.m. press conference, Steger said two were killed at West Ambler Johnston, and 31 — including the gunman — were killed at Norris Hall. Fifteen other victims are being treated at nearby hospitals, Steger said.
Virginia Tech Police Chief W.R. Flinchum said the gunman killed himself. He said there is no shooting suspect in custody, and the Norris Hall shooter is dead. Authorities cannot yet say if the two shootings are connected.
Further reports state that after he had shot up one classroom, some students played dead in the hope that the gunman would move on:
"From what I heard, he chained up some of the doors so people couldn't get in and he basically was just going to every classroom trying to get in, and just started shooting inside classrooms," Jenkins said.
One of his friends was in a Norris classroom targeted by the gunman, Jenkins said.
"He was very fortunate," Jenkins said. "He said every single person in the room was shot, killed and was in the ground. He laid on the ground with everyone … he played dead and he was OK."
Of course, the big issue here revolving around the campus's response is that they failed to notify students of the shooter quickly. Also, it seems that the the Virginia Assembly killed a bill that would have allowed firearms to be carried on campus last year:
A bill that would have given college students and employees the right to carry handguns on campus died with nary a shot being fired in the General Assembly.
House Bill 1572 didn't get through the House Committee on Militia, Police and Public Safety. It died Monday in the subcommittee stage, the first of several hurdles bills must overcome before becoming laws.
The bill was proposed by Del. Todd Gilbert, R-Shenandoah County, on behalf of the Virginia Citizens Defense League. Gilbert was unavailable Monday and spokesman Gary Frink would not comment on the bill's defeat other than to say the issue was dead for this General Assembly session.
If students had the ability to carry firearms, this would havew ended long before it did. Already there's crappola coming out of the media about gun control. Lord, these people are as dense as bricks.
Publius II
It always takes a tragedy like this one (Allah notes that according to this killing spree is tied for third amongst the worst in history) that has the moonbats in the press calling for stricter gun controls. I know of no college campus where you may legally carry a firearm, and that includes ASU. (I do anyway because I have a CCW license, and I would rather not be caught without a way to defend myself. Thomas cannot be by my side 24/7.) And while the media may be asking about tightening gun controls, I call for a relaxation of them. Think about it, and I know it has been said before, but if one or two students happened to be armed, this spree would have ended quickly.
The Left never contemplates such an idea. It is foreign to them. To them, that is the job of the police (the same police they berate day in and day out) and not us. We are supposed to sit on the sidelines like good little doobies, and wait for help. Yes, except that help is a ways off, and meanwhile we have a nut case shooting randomly at people. Take this, for example, that Allah found on Virginia Tech's listserv from a student:
Zach just got back and he told us his story. he can tell u the details better but he deserves to be recognized immediately. He was in norris hall and heard the gunshots comign from down the hall. while others hid in the class room zach got up and got a few others to help him baracade the door with desks. He could hear the gunman coming down the hall opening doors n firing into class rooms. Zach then saw his door handle turn and the gun man tried to get in but zach slammed the door back shut, others then got up to help, trying to hold the door shut with desks. zach then said he heard the the gunman reload a new magazine and fired two shots directly through the door, luckily didnt hit anybody. the gunman then gave up an continued down the hall.
And now there is this from ABC News. Someone has some 'splaining to do:
I was in class…two buildings over. Someone got a text message saying something was going on. After that we were told to stay in the building, away from the windows.
Right at the end of class, 9:50 or 9:55.
It really wasn't organized. Almost everyone else just left, and while the kids were running out, people said, "Come back, come back."
"The only reason we knew was because someone got a text message…No one was there saying, "This is what's going on."
Communication from college? I checked my e-mail about 8:30…I went to my class as I usually would. By 8:30 no one was notified that something had happened at 7. We went onto a dangerous campus not knowing…
Why did the school not notify students of a shooting that started at 7 a.m. prior to their departure for classes? The school cannot say that this cannot be done. That is a lie. We have the Amber Alert system for the nation, and it is broadcast over TV and radio, on electronic freeway signs, and even the lottery machines print out Amber Alert notices and updates. If we can do it for missing children, then you can bet we can find a way to protect college campuses better with this sort of notification. I must share the anger of the students who went out on a campus where a gunman was loose, and they were unaware.
And according to MSNBC, this was not as random as many think:
The name of the gunman was not released. It was not immediately clear whether he shot himself or was killed by police.
The man did not appear to be shooting at random, NBC News’ Pete Williams reported, quoting federal law enforcement officials. He appeared to have specifically targeted the two locations, a co-ed dormitory and a classroom housing engineering and business classes.
Law enforcement officials said the gunman carried two weapons, a 9-mm pistol and a 22-caliber handgun, Williams reported. They said gunman chained the doors of the classroom building so his potential victims could not escape and police could not enter.
He targeted two specific areas, and he was stayingh until he found who he was looking for. News reports state that he went there to find his girlfriend, but without that coming from him, no one knows for sure, and he does not appear to be doing any talking soon since he is among the dead. This also was not a spur of the moment desire for him. He came armed well, and chains for the doors. I would be willing to wager that he was possibly a former student, or had been on the campus enough to know it's layout, and where he wanted to go.
Marcie
UPDATE: The death toll is up to 33 now, and according to the Virginia Tech police chief the gunman took his own life:
During a 4:45 p.m. press conference, Steger said two were killed at West Ambler Johnston, and 31 — including the gunman — were killed at Norris Hall. Fifteen other victims are being treated at nearby hospitals, Steger said.
Virginia Tech Police Chief W.R. Flinchum said the gunman killed himself. He said there is no shooting suspect in custody, and the Norris Hall shooter is dead. Authorities cannot yet say if the two shootings are connected.
Further reports state that after he had shot up one classroom, some students played dead in the hope that the gunman would move on:
"From what I heard, he chained up some of the doors so people couldn't get in and he basically was just going to every classroom trying to get in, and just started shooting inside classrooms," Jenkins said.
One of his friends was in a Norris classroom targeted by the gunman, Jenkins said.
"He was very fortunate," Jenkins said. "He said every single person in the room was shot, killed and was in the ground. He laid on the ground with everyone … he played dead and he was OK."
Of course, the big issue here revolving around the campus's response is that they failed to notify students of the shooter quickly. Also, it seems that the the Virginia Assembly killed a bill that would have allowed firearms to be carried on campus last year:
A bill that would have given college students and employees the right to carry handguns on campus died with nary a shot being fired in the General Assembly.
House Bill 1572 didn't get through the House Committee on Militia, Police and Public Safety. It died Monday in the subcommittee stage, the first of several hurdles bills must overcome before becoming laws.
The bill was proposed by Del. Todd Gilbert, R-Shenandoah County, on behalf of the Virginia Citizens Defense League. Gilbert was unavailable Monday and spokesman Gary Frink would not comment on the bill's defeat other than to say the issue was dead for this General Assembly session.
If students had the ability to carry firearms, this would havew ended long before it did. Already there's crappola coming out of the media about gun control. Lord, these people are as dense as bricks.
Publius II
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