Lies Open For All To See: An Imam Confronted In Denmark
Guess who's not laying down over the "Cartoon War?" Yep, Denmark is now firing back with both barrels. Michelle Malkin has an update today regarding the controversial phony comic of a pig-snouted man that the imams have claimed were among the cartoons that sparked these riots. This "cartoon" is nothing more than an extremely grainy photo of a man in France participating in a pig-squealing contest. This image was debunked earlier this week at Neander News. And, of course, to push the envelope, DR-1--a Danish news outlet--decided to address one of the imams (Ahmed Akkari) outraged over the cartoons. Below is the translated transcript of the exchange.
Interviewer: We have pictures of your predecessor as spokesman from 'Islamisk Trossamfund' who sits in Cairo and shows that the picture has been shown there and says that is one of the worst pictures. Should we see what he is saying in this recording from Cairo?
Unidentified imam with dossier and pig photo: This is one of the worst picture that anyone ever imagine. They imagine our prophets [unintelligible]. [Pointing to the pig-squealing contestant]. The hands of a man praying and the face of a pig.
Interviewer: Recordings from Cairo when you were on tour. There was not much to get wrong: "It is one of the worst pictures." But that wasn't published in Denmark.
Akkari: That picture was not part of the drawings in JP, and everybody knows that.
Interviewer: That is not what I am asking.
Akkari: That is what it is about.
Interviewer: That picture was present in the tour in the Middle East, in the folder that your predecessor is holding and is shown to your co-religionists.
Akkari: I think we should try and ask in Cairo and in the Middle East generally if it that is the picture all the people are mad about. And if that is the case I will give in. If it is not then, and I don't think it is, then we must realize that this is about the 12 drawings in [the Jyllands-Posten] and not about a stunt like that.
Interviewer: Why did you include that picture in your folder?
Akkari: To show what provocations can come from writing articles to [the Jyllands-Posten] . It was some answers to some provocations that had come.
Interviewer: But the picture that you showed your co-religionists has not been publicised in Denmark.
Akkari: Nobody said that.
Interviewer: Why should it be shown as you say and it is said by your predecessor.
Akkari: It was shown after a number of papers and what it is about right now, is to see the folder in its entirety. To extract a few seconds from a conversation can easily be manipulated, it can easily be misinterpreted. And if the statements of Danish experts hasn't been good enough to let us understand that this is not a case of manipulation, then I can understand that somebody tries to shift the blame to us to free themselves of the responsibility.
Interviewer: Ahmed Akkari, you are talking in circles, I am sorry to be so blunt. That picture was present in the Middle East and presented as some of the worst shown in Denmark, but it is from a pig-party in France. Is that the truth or is it a lie, what you have shown in the Middle East?
Akkari: The questions you ask now and the way it is presented is not the truth either because it is taken out of context and you don't let people understand what the complete case is about. Because what is is about is to show what anonymous pictures Muslims have received as a provocation. I don't think that anybody has claimed that it is something JP has publicized and you are welcome to travel about and ask.
Interviewer: What do you want to tell Danish people who thinks: That man is sitting and lying.
Akkari: I think they should hold back because we haven't intended to lie in any way. We hope that everybody can take responsibility. If it is shown that there is something wrong, we are willing to correct that misinformation, if it is that which has released all this anger. Let us try to investigate this together, we won't refuse to try to investigate what this case is about, and if it is that which has released the angers, I am going on live TV in a moment and explain that. Let's hope we can do it together.
Interviewer: That was the chairman of Islamisk Trossamfund.
This is just another instance of the Muslim radicals trying to spin the propaganda involved in this entire fiasco. Need we be reminded of the Muslim "hate-crimes" of the past? There are five instances that Michelle Malkin has listed, and those are listed below. (Technically, there are six links on her site, but the CapMag link isn't working.)
A Hate Crime In Texas proven to be phony.
A Hate Crime In Washington, again a hoax.
A Koran Torched by a Muslim student, blamed on "insensitive Americans."
A Motel Torched by it's Muslim owner, after 11 September, and blamed on "white supremicists."
And The Boy Who Cried "Muslim", and accused innocent people of ignoring the abuse he suffered at his own hands. (I remember this one well, folks; I live in Arizona where this occurred.)
The cartoons caused enough of a stir, and I apologize to the Muslims who feel slighted. I'm not saying they shouldn't be offended. But the religious leaders in the background have managed to avoid being dragged out into the light, and questioned regarding their culpability in this debacle. It is more than obvious that these people are fanning the flames of violence ripping across the Middle East, and across the Muslim regions of Asia.
And as if there weren't bad enough, there is this story from Reuters regarding a bombing in Istanbul.
Istanbul's police chief said a bomb blast on Thursday at an Internet cafe in the city had wounded 14 people.
Police had said earlier that it was a gas explosion.
"It's a bomb explosion, there are 14 injured. One of them is seriously injured," Celalettin Cerrah told reporters after visiting the Internet cafe where the blast occurred. Six of the injured were police officers, he said.
The blast rocked the Bayrampasa district, not far from the airport on the European side of Turkey's largest city.
Militant Islamists carried out a series of devastating explosions in Istanbul in November 2003 that targeted British and Jewish sites and killed more than 60 people.
Other radical groups including Kurdish separatists also operate in Turkey and have in the past carried out violent attacks on both civilian and military targets.
Jim Geraghty blogging in Istanbul has the following thoughts:
BOMBING OF TURKISH RIOT POLICE IN ISTANBUL
Crap.
CNN: "The blast took place at an Internet cafe frequented by police officers from the nearby local headquarters of Istanbul's riot police."
Three guesses as to what the local riot police have been doing lately.
Turkish television is showing injured bomb victims arriving at the hospital. Some of 'em are just kids, or early teens. Wire services are reporting four injured.
By the way, today's Turkish Daily News: "Protests spread across Turkey as concerns rise that bigger demonstrations may be in the offing as Friday prayers approach."
UPDATE: SkyTurk just said 14 injured.
Michelle Malkin received an e-mail from Mr. Geraghty on the subject. I'm not taking his bet, by the way. This is a no-brainer, and his analysis is spot-on.
Jim e-mails that it's an "ominous sign - somebody put a bomb in an Istanbul cafe frequently used by their riot cops. Yeah, the same riot cops protecting the Danish consulate there a few days ago. Sure looks to me like somebody's trying to send a message: 'Don't prevent us from reaching the Consulate next time.' By the way, tomorrow's the day of prayer. I'd bet a kebab there's another big protest/rally aimed at the consulate tomorrow (and maybe the embassy here in Ankara)."
Anyone remember what my better half said a few days ago? Something about things getting worse before they get better? Yeah, no kidding. We have their side claiming defamatory cartoons and statements, where they're joining the fray, creating the hub-bub they're "protesting," and animals that are going after civilian targets frequented by kids and cops.
They aren't really trying to show that the Danes were wrong, huh? Let this be a reminder to them: The more you act like this, the more violent you become, you only force more people onto the side against the radicals, and make the cartoons seem more true than what they are. If you knock this garbage off now, you might be able to salvage what little is left of the credibility you had on day one.
Publius II
Guess who's not laying down over the "Cartoon War?" Yep, Denmark is now firing back with both barrels. Michelle Malkin has an update today regarding the controversial phony comic of a pig-snouted man that the imams have claimed were among the cartoons that sparked these riots. This "cartoon" is nothing more than an extremely grainy photo of a man in France participating in a pig-squealing contest. This image was debunked earlier this week at Neander News. And, of course, to push the envelope, DR-1--a Danish news outlet--decided to address one of the imams (Ahmed Akkari) outraged over the cartoons. Below is the translated transcript of the exchange.
Interviewer: We have pictures of your predecessor as spokesman from 'Islamisk Trossamfund' who sits in Cairo and shows that the picture has been shown there and says that is one of the worst pictures. Should we see what he is saying in this recording from Cairo?
Unidentified imam with dossier and pig photo: This is one of the worst picture that anyone ever imagine. They imagine our prophets [unintelligible]. [Pointing to the pig-squealing contestant]. The hands of a man praying and the face of a pig.
Interviewer: Recordings from Cairo when you were on tour. There was not much to get wrong: "It is one of the worst pictures." But that wasn't published in Denmark.
Akkari: That picture was not part of the drawings in JP, and everybody knows that.
Interviewer: That is not what I am asking.
Akkari: That is what it is about.
Interviewer: That picture was present in the tour in the Middle East, in the folder that your predecessor is holding and is shown to your co-religionists.
Akkari: I think we should try and ask in Cairo and in the Middle East generally if it that is the picture all the people are mad about. And if that is the case I will give in. If it is not then, and I don't think it is, then we must realize that this is about the 12 drawings in [the Jyllands-Posten] and not about a stunt like that.
Interviewer: Why did you include that picture in your folder?
Akkari: To show what provocations can come from writing articles to [the Jyllands-Posten] . It was some answers to some provocations that had come.
Interviewer: But the picture that you showed your co-religionists has not been publicised in Denmark.
Akkari: Nobody said that.
Interviewer: Why should it be shown as you say and it is said by your predecessor.
Akkari: It was shown after a number of papers and what it is about right now, is to see the folder in its entirety. To extract a few seconds from a conversation can easily be manipulated, it can easily be misinterpreted. And if the statements of Danish experts hasn't been good enough to let us understand that this is not a case of manipulation, then I can understand that somebody tries to shift the blame to us to free themselves of the responsibility.
Interviewer: Ahmed Akkari, you are talking in circles, I am sorry to be so blunt. That picture was present in the Middle East and presented as some of the worst shown in Denmark, but it is from a pig-party in France. Is that the truth or is it a lie, what you have shown in the Middle East?
Akkari: The questions you ask now and the way it is presented is not the truth either because it is taken out of context and you don't let people understand what the complete case is about. Because what is is about is to show what anonymous pictures Muslims have received as a provocation. I don't think that anybody has claimed that it is something JP has publicized and you are welcome to travel about and ask.
Interviewer: What do you want to tell Danish people who thinks: That man is sitting and lying.
Akkari: I think they should hold back because we haven't intended to lie in any way. We hope that everybody can take responsibility. If it is shown that there is something wrong, we are willing to correct that misinformation, if it is that which has released all this anger. Let us try to investigate this together, we won't refuse to try to investigate what this case is about, and if it is that which has released the angers, I am going on live TV in a moment and explain that. Let's hope we can do it together.
Interviewer: That was the chairman of Islamisk Trossamfund.
This is just another instance of the Muslim radicals trying to spin the propaganda involved in this entire fiasco. Need we be reminded of the Muslim "hate-crimes" of the past? There are five instances that Michelle Malkin has listed, and those are listed below. (Technically, there are six links on her site, but the CapMag link isn't working.)
A Hate Crime In Texas proven to be phony.
A Hate Crime In Washington, again a hoax.
A Koran Torched by a Muslim student, blamed on "insensitive Americans."
A Motel Torched by it's Muslim owner, after 11 September, and blamed on "white supremicists."
And The Boy Who Cried "Muslim", and accused innocent people of ignoring the abuse he suffered at his own hands. (I remember this one well, folks; I live in Arizona where this occurred.)
The cartoons caused enough of a stir, and I apologize to the Muslims who feel slighted. I'm not saying they shouldn't be offended. But the religious leaders in the background have managed to avoid being dragged out into the light, and questioned regarding their culpability in this debacle. It is more than obvious that these people are fanning the flames of violence ripping across the Middle East, and across the Muslim regions of Asia.
And as if there weren't bad enough, there is this story from Reuters regarding a bombing in Istanbul.
Istanbul's police chief said a bomb blast on Thursday at an Internet cafe in the city had wounded 14 people.
Police had said earlier that it was a gas explosion.
"It's a bomb explosion, there are 14 injured. One of them is seriously injured," Celalettin Cerrah told reporters after visiting the Internet cafe where the blast occurred. Six of the injured were police officers, he said.
The blast rocked the Bayrampasa district, not far from the airport on the European side of Turkey's largest city.
Militant Islamists carried out a series of devastating explosions in Istanbul in November 2003 that targeted British and Jewish sites and killed more than 60 people.
Other radical groups including Kurdish separatists also operate in Turkey and have in the past carried out violent attacks on both civilian and military targets.
Jim Geraghty blogging in Istanbul has the following thoughts:
BOMBING OF TURKISH RIOT POLICE IN ISTANBUL
Crap.
CNN: "The blast took place at an Internet cafe frequented by police officers from the nearby local headquarters of Istanbul's riot police."
Three guesses as to what the local riot police have been doing lately.
Turkish television is showing injured bomb victims arriving at the hospital. Some of 'em are just kids, or early teens. Wire services are reporting four injured.
By the way, today's Turkish Daily News: "Protests spread across Turkey as concerns rise that bigger demonstrations may be in the offing as Friday prayers approach."
UPDATE: SkyTurk just said 14 injured.
Michelle Malkin received an e-mail from Mr. Geraghty on the subject. I'm not taking his bet, by the way. This is a no-brainer, and his analysis is spot-on.
Jim e-mails that it's an "ominous sign - somebody put a bomb in an Istanbul cafe frequently used by their riot cops. Yeah, the same riot cops protecting the Danish consulate there a few days ago. Sure looks to me like somebody's trying to send a message: 'Don't prevent us from reaching the Consulate next time.' By the way, tomorrow's the day of prayer. I'd bet a kebab there's another big protest/rally aimed at the consulate tomorrow (and maybe the embassy here in Ankara)."
Anyone remember what my better half said a few days ago? Something about things getting worse before they get better? Yeah, no kidding. We have their side claiming defamatory cartoons and statements, where they're joining the fray, creating the hub-bub they're "protesting," and animals that are going after civilian targets frequented by kids and cops.
They aren't really trying to show that the Danes were wrong, huh? Let this be a reminder to them: The more you act like this, the more violent you become, you only force more people onto the side against the radicals, and make the cartoons seem more true than what they are. If you knock this garbage off now, you might be able to salvage what little is left of the credibility you had on day one.
Publius II
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