Disproportionate My @$$
I am truly getting sick of hearing this sort of nonsense in the press. And I am especially disgusted hearing such a thing come out of the collective mouths of EU ministers:
EU foreign ministers have urged Israel "not to resort to disproportionate action" when defending itself against Hezbollah attacks, while member states are evacuating their own nationals.
Foreign ministers, meeting on Monday in Brussels, were briefed by EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana following a Sunday trip to assess the escalating violence in Lebanon.
EU ministers agreed on a statement which was as similar as possible to a text adopted by G8 leaders in St Petersburg over the weekend in order to create an "international front to press Israel, Hamas and Hezbollah," Dutch foreign minister Bernard Bot said. ...
The "EU recognises Israel’s legitimate right to self-defence, but it urges Israel to exercise utmost restraint and not to resort to disproportionate action,” the statement adds.
According to EU observers, the passage of the declaration on Israeli actions was notably weaker than earlier statements issued by the current Finnish EU presidency last week, which had called Israeli violence "disproportionate."
An Israeli diplomat in Brussels said that Israel disliked this wording, asking: "What do people expect Israel to do?" in face of the "indiscriminate terror" by Hezbollah rocket attacks.
EU ministers also recalled "the need for the Lebanese state to restore its sovereignty over the whole of its national territory and to do its utmost to prevent Hezbollah attacks."
I fail to see or to grasp the EU's side in all of this. Was it disproportionate in World War II as nation after nation was gobbled up by Hitler's advancing blitzkrieg? What about France's notable foray into French Indochina (Vietnam, for the Steeler's fan), or their recent excursion to put down riots in the Ivory Coast. I seem to recall French troops firing on unarmed civilians there (the only sort of war the French would never surrender in is one in which they alone are the armed party).
Israel does have a right to defend itself. I am happy to see the EU recognize at least that aspect of this war. However, they would prefer Israel use some restraint. What? Has the EU been watching CNN's "Situation Room?" Have they been buying the lines coming from Hezbollah that Israel is simply out to kill innocent people? Or, do they buy the lies and the chicanery of Iranian President< Mahmoud Amadinejad that Israel is acting Nazi-esque in their war?
I find it utterly appalling that the EU would act like this. And mostly my disgust comes from the fact that the statement "disproportionate action" in and of itself is hypocritical, and intellectually dishonest. It is captious for them to decry Israel when they full well that if that were to happen to them they would respond in like kid; that is, with the full measure of force THEY felt was necessary, and they would not be discussing the use of such force with the world. and that also goes towards the dishonesty they are showing to the world, as a whole, in demanding that Israel show some restraint.
Israel is showing restraint. We can see that alone in the number of dead thus far. Israel, technically, has not even started rolling yet. And in the puff-piece done by CNN Tuesday (linked above) we can clearly see that Hezbollah is not simply capable of terrorism, but acting, as well. It is well-known in the region, and throughout the world, that Hezbollah, Hamas,, al-Qaeda, and other Middle Eastern terror groups place their men, their weapons, and their equipment in civilian areas. For crying out loud, terror groups have been using human shields for years. Al-Qaeda has been using them effectively for the past three years in Iraq.
To the EU I say "Butt out of the Israeli/Hezbollah conflict." Let Israel do what it has to in dealing with Hezbollah. And I dislike the idea as part of the cease-fire offer of having the Lebanese military in the border region. If Lebanon cannot reign in Hezbollah, then Hezbollah must have deeper access to the Lebanese government than just their parliament. It is a distinct possibility that in addition to Hezbollah having its tentacles intertwined within the government and the military, Assad's intelligence service is still there, as well. That alone adds extra fuel to the fire.
The world needs to shut up and either support Israel, or sit on their hands. Enough is enough of these European bureaucrats and them sticking their nose in places where it does not belong. And because no other nation is willing to undertake the dismantling of Hezbollah, I would say to sit back and enjoy this. Either Hezbollah goes, or Israel will not stop until they are gone. There is simply no other way.
Oh yes. The "shut up" is also extended to the likes of Pat Buchanan, George Will, and other conservatives that dislike anything having to do with this war, or ours. Let us do what we need to do. Let the Israelis do what they need to do. This has nothing to do with any stupid paper written by a conservative. Quit using the term "neo-con" because its clear that despite their intelligence, they have no clue with the term means, where it originated, and when it originated. The term is older than myself and Thomas put together. And yet, this is what our side is referred to now. Sheesh, tell the paleo-conservatives its time for them to lie down and let the sane adults engage in this.
Marcie
I am truly getting sick of hearing this sort of nonsense in the press. And I am especially disgusted hearing such a thing come out of the collective mouths of EU ministers:
EU foreign ministers have urged Israel "not to resort to disproportionate action" when defending itself against Hezbollah attacks, while member states are evacuating their own nationals.
Foreign ministers, meeting on Monday in Brussels, were briefed by EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana following a Sunday trip to assess the escalating violence in Lebanon.
EU ministers agreed on a statement which was as similar as possible to a text adopted by G8 leaders in St Petersburg over the weekend in order to create an "international front to press Israel, Hamas and Hezbollah," Dutch foreign minister Bernard Bot said. ...
The "EU recognises Israel’s legitimate right to self-defence, but it urges Israel to exercise utmost restraint and not to resort to disproportionate action,” the statement adds.
According to EU observers, the passage of the declaration on Israeli actions was notably weaker than earlier statements issued by the current Finnish EU presidency last week, which had called Israeli violence "disproportionate."
An Israeli diplomat in Brussels said that Israel disliked this wording, asking: "What do people expect Israel to do?" in face of the "indiscriminate terror" by Hezbollah rocket attacks.
EU ministers also recalled "the need for the Lebanese state to restore its sovereignty over the whole of its national territory and to do its utmost to prevent Hezbollah attacks."
I fail to see or to grasp the EU's side in all of this. Was it disproportionate in World War II as nation after nation was gobbled up by Hitler's advancing blitzkrieg? What about France's notable foray into French Indochina (Vietnam, for the Steeler's fan), or their recent excursion to put down riots in the Ivory Coast. I seem to recall French troops firing on unarmed civilians there (the only sort of war the French would never surrender in is one in which they alone are the armed party).
Israel does have a right to defend itself. I am happy to see the EU recognize at least that aspect of this war. However, they would prefer Israel use some restraint. What? Has the EU been watching CNN's "Situation Room?" Have they been buying the lines coming from Hezbollah that Israel is simply out to kill innocent people? Or, do they buy the lies and the chicanery of Iranian President< Mahmoud Amadinejad that Israel is acting Nazi-esque in their war?
I find it utterly appalling that the EU would act like this. And mostly my disgust comes from the fact that the statement "disproportionate action" in and of itself is hypocritical, and intellectually dishonest. It is captious for them to decry Israel when they full well that if that were to happen to them they would respond in like kid; that is, with the full measure of force THEY felt was necessary, and they would not be discussing the use of such force with the world. and that also goes towards the dishonesty they are showing to the world, as a whole, in demanding that Israel show some restraint.
Israel is showing restraint. We can see that alone in the number of dead thus far. Israel, technically, has not even started rolling yet. And in the puff-piece done by CNN Tuesday (linked above) we can clearly see that Hezbollah is not simply capable of terrorism, but acting, as well. It is well-known in the region, and throughout the world, that Hezbollah, Hamas,, al-Qaeda, and other Middle Eastern terror groups place their men, their weapons, and their equipment in civilian areas. For crying out loud, terror groups have been using human shields for years. Al-Qaeda has been using them effectively for the past three years in Iraq.
To the EU I say "Butt out of the Israeli/Hezbollah conflict." Let Israel do what it has to in dealing with Hezbollah. And I dislike the idea as part of the cease-fire offer of having the Lebanese military in the border region. If Lebanon cannot reign in Hezbollah, then Hezbollah must have deeper access to the Lebanese government than just their parliament. It is a distinct possibility that in addition to Hezbollah having its tentacles intertwined within the government and the military, Assad's intelligence service is still there, as well. That alone adds extra fuel to the fire.
The world needs to shut up and either support Israel, or sit on their hands. Enough is enough of these European bureaucrats and them sticking their nose in places where it does not belong. And because no other nation is willing to undertake the dismantling of Hezbollah, I would say to sit back and enjoy this. Either Hezbollah goes, or Israel will not stop until they are gone. There is simply no other way.
Oh yes. The "shut up" is also extended to the likes of Pat Buchanan, George Will, and other conservatives that dislike anything having to do with this war, or ours. Let us do what we need to do. Let the Israelis do what they need to do. This has nothing to do with any stupid paper written by a conservative. Quit using the term "neo-con" because its clear that despite their intelligence, they have no clue with the term means, where it originated, and when it originated. The term is older than myself and Thomas put together. And yet, this is what our side is referred to now. Sheesh, tell the paleo-conservatives its time for them to lie down and let the sane adults engage in this.
Marcie
posted by Syd And Vaughn | 9:11 AM
1 Comments:
I'm reminded that the UN cannot agree on the definition for terrorist. It seems these officials don't understand what a terrorist does. They are playing right into Hexbollah's hands as well as other terrorist groups. The message to the terrorist should be we will hunt you down and kill you. You aren't fit to live is a civilized society. Rawriter.
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